2008-10-29 16:39:36 翡翠蛙

德國瘋狂玩家把Mercedes Benz W123 230E 安裝 V8 3.5 engine.but he will

德國瘋狂玩家把Mercedes Benz W123 230E 安裝 3.5 engine.but he will update with an 5.0

























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因德文翻譯為中文實在翻不到幾個字

friend from germany.
he had an 230 E with a 3.5 engine.but he will update with an 5.0
MB engine.

http://www.mp3xxx.de/1112/1165.html

Thus, there I no longer constantly the time have short and high-speed guidance on emails with general change inquiries zuantworten here!

As change basis all V8 engines of the S-classes W116 and W126 is suitable between 3,5 and 5,6 litres capacity.
My personal recommendation would be an aluminum block engine and a K-Jetronik mixture on praying riding.
The aluminum block for a harmonious weight distribution and a smaller top-heaviness to save the good K-Jetrinik around itself aufwendioge change working and inserting of the wiring harness of the donor vehicle.

All the same whether 350SE, 380SE, 420SE, 450SE, 500SE and 560SE, the engine mount and the transmission have the same Mase and screw connections. Only varies the cylinder heads and engines the weight.
The size of the Ventilköpfe, and which elbow unions can likewise provide here for grief, elbow unions and brake boosters can themselves stand depending upon variant mutually in the way.

One needs to the change: a W123 (Limo), a C123 (Coupe) or a V123 (combination) and the technology from the donor vehicle: Brake caliper + pertinent disks and blocks, an engine (at the best aluminum block without electrical injection), completely importantly gasoline pumps the relay from the donor vehicle!!! , the transmission, a cardan shaft, and depending upon desired translation and achievement a suitable Differenzial.

The largest “problem” at the whole change is the length of the cardan shaft. There are different cardan shafts with zig lengths for the W123, either one has to time and the possibility all lengths to try one after the other, or one lets oneself adapt the cardan shaft in the length.

Completely importantly history is that one the examiner best a copy for the TÜV or the original of the registration papers of the donor vehicle submits. One must the examiner besides convincingly to insure be able that one the drive unit 1:1 from the donor vehicle took over.
An informal letter is optimal by a workshop with then is naturally certified that engine, transmission, differential and brakes from the appropriate donor vehicle to originate and is blocked.

With the brakes of the S-class W126 there is two different versions, with which one can drive still 14 " rims to one, with the other one only 15 " and more largely. With both variants the change is such as Lego. Old one raus, again purely, finished.

The brake booster of the W123 is sufficient for the ventilated S-class brakes, if however the possibility exists guesses/advises I to the appropriate change from the donor vehicle.
The operating pressure with the W116 and W126 S-Klase is clearly higher than with the W123. Has the pleasant advantage, one must the pedal lightly only touch around a tidy delay to receive.

With the engine and the transmission it is similar.
My current 3.5 V8 engine is blocked with the following original MT construction units:
Engine owner with the part number R 116,223 5104 and R 116,223 5004 in connection with engine mounting S8-123 241 11616-742235.

Still questions should be open, in the W123 Internet forum give it the W123 Wiki with some Tuning hints of me.
Emails to me go expecting also, but please no fast answer.


So, the old and broken 3,5L V8 engine from the series W116 is now drausen.

Next now the engine compartment is black painted

If this happened on the “new” W126 5.0 V8 engine a few parts is only still renewed. This one simply more easily ran comes accomplished in the still developed condition there; -)

And then everything is again together built and the cars is hopefully until April/May again drivingready!





It goes loosely!!!!

As the first the 3.5 L engine and the pertinent 3-Ganggetriebe are developed.
Someone should at the W116 350SE (L) transmission interresse to have, the part has only 90tkm down and is in the perfect condition. Price VB 500, -

Then the engine compartment is again-painted and the battery walks into the trunk.

The “new” W126 500SE (L) engine with 240PS get, before it is inserted, first times new valve stem seals, new injection nozzles, Bosch Platinum spark plugs, a new open-loop system + new Kettenspanner, a new water pump and a responding lacquer finish - somewhere between yellow, orange and shine-orange: -)

The “new” W126 500SE (L) 4-Gang automatic transmission gets before it is eingbaut likewise a large service, a few new seals and also a lacquer finish.






If one already makes it in Croatia vacation, there offers formally on with the Anton past watches itself and still a few parts zubringen past.

Shortly more on the Anton of its homepage.

http://www.5wwwww5.com/mercedes/


I in the Anton its V8







The 300D von Anton its friend

Compared with Anton its 300D has 230 hardly rust; -)

Belongs to another acquaintance of the Anton his friend, and stands because of shortage of money already somewhat for longer rum



The backjard of Antons nut runner excavates

The car belonged also Antons friend and waits for a new engine and something lacquer

This project was placed in favor of vopn Antons V8 and the 300D to the side

More on Antons homepage http://www.5wwwww5.com/mercedes/






With the “new” engine it acts around an aluminum casting V8 engine of the type M117.960 with 4973 ccm and a compression of 8,8:1

“Down-consolidated” 240 HP engine has larger Pleullager than the “highly compressed” (9,2: 1) with 231PS, and let themselves load without change of the pistons, Pleule, crankshaft, head poetry and engine mounting by compressor.

Series achievement: 177kw-240PS with 4750 rpm and 404 Nm with 3200 rpm the Abregeldrehzahl are with 5950 rpm.

Acceleration of a 1640kg heavy 500er S-class with 240PS according to car engine and sport 7.8 sec. on 100km/h and maximum speed 230km/h. Factory specification according to Mercedes-Benz table book 1983 is 8.1 sec. on 100km/h and 225km/h the indicated maximum speed.

My W123 will come on a weight from approx. 1500 to 1550kg. 1460kg weighs a 280E without considerable equipment. Besides I drive some more smaller wheels than the S-class also installed. Thus a better acceleration should have as a 500SE of the series W126

The automatic transmission scolded according to table book 1983 with 1st course 64km/h, in the 2nd course 124km/h and in the 3rd course 207km/h into the respective higher course with Übergas (kickdown)

Übersetztung and wheel tire combination Pi´s W123 5,0:

Width: mm of 245
Height: % 45
Rim: Tariff 16

Transmission attitude:
1. Course: 3,68
2. Course: 2,41
3. Course: 1,44
4. Course: 1 
Axle: 2,82

Course 1000 1500 2000 2500 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000 5500
1.        16    24     32    40    48    56    64    72    80    88   
2.        25    37     49    61    74    86    98   110,123   135 
3.        41    62     82,103   123,144   164,185   205   226 
4.        59    89   118   148   177,207   236     -      -      - 
Data in km/h per rpm


Wheel tire combination W126 500SE 240PS-Version series:

Width: mm of 205
Height: % 70
Rim: Tariff 14

Transmission attitude:
1. Course: 3,68
2. Course: 2,41
3. Course: 1,44
4. Course: 1
Axle: 2,82

Course 1000 1500 2000 2500 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000 5500
1.       16    25    33     41    49    58    66    74    82     91   
2.       25    38    50     63    75    88   101,113,126    138 
3.       42    63    84    105,126,147   168,189   210   231   
4.       61    91   121   151,182   212   242   -      -       -   
Data in km/h per rpm








The V8 has a very bizarre damage to the engine has. In the block two small tears (approx. 4 cm) and a large tear with approx. 25cm are length!!! on left side! On rights the side is small 4 cm. Tear.

The first assumption was that the engine substantial was overheated. However the head poetry would have burned through or the Aluminum cylinder heads before there would have become distorted and/or would have torn.
More obviously the assumption is that it over material fatigue-acted and/or errors in the casting.

As soon as the change on W126 5.0 technology is final the 3.5 engine is divided and the block X-rayed.

Here one sees all three tears very good

Here again

The engine without the water-cooled sucking in spider




151kw and/or 205 HP from 3,5 litres capacity dezent packs


Please recount, 8 cylinders are it.

Only with opened hood one can see the former color. The car was umlackiert by oldred in black. Well watch likewise here the modified air cleaner box.

Thus it looked completely fresh as I him had. The rear feathers/springs were so softly that with full power the rear lower edge of my final pot at the ground touched


There still the 7X15 was AMG rims drauf with 225/50/15 tire. No vehicle identification plate at the tail lets puzzle other road users repeatedly which it there straight overhauled. Only the small V8 plaque on the fenders gives reference to the worths.


There the tax office, Kat is not pleased

The front feathers/springs are however imprinted by the higher engine weight (approx. 90 kg) easily the series W123 feathers/springs. In addition comes that I in the back the W116 L export feathers/springs installed and the thick rubbers with 4-Noppen under the feathers/springs to be.

Meanwhile are fox rims with 195/70/14 drauf, why? Thus I better to drift can: -)


Enter and probably-feel…

Enter and probably feel. Recaro of sport seats and Lorinser sport steering wheel provide for it. As one sees I the old interior equipment in color Dattel for a black one exchanged. are however not yet completely finished there still some parts are missing. If someone which “rum-lie” have to me please to communicate, search still everything from plastics and a, B & C-columns in black.


Technical data: Water-cooled 8-Zylinder grey cast iron petrol engine with a obenliegenden cam shaft per Zylinderreihe and two valves per cylinder, 151 KW with 5750 rpm, three-course mechanism, check differential, brakes in front and brake boosters from W116 6,9; Exhaust system only back pressure-free final muffler likewise from W116 6,9;  Recaro driver and passenger seat, Lorinsersportlenkrad, Magnat 325er 3-Wege system with Mac audio 240 Watts of amplifiers in the instrument panel in an integrated way, the same system comes also still on the hat rack (sometime), in the trunk work ELT designed and computed bass reflex box with a Magnat 4 ohms of 600 Watts of loudspeakers and Sony amplifiers with max. 1700Watt, in the back no type designation (cleanes tail), only on both fenders in front a V8 plaque of the G500.

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